{"id":379233,"date":"2019-04-22T12:43:53","date_gmt":"2019-04-22T12:43:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/uniquehot.com\/?p=379233"},"modified":"2019-04-22T12:43:53","modified_gmt":"2019-04-22T12:43:53","slug":"prominent-analysts-divided-bitcoin-bottom","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/uniquehot.com\/news\/prominent-analysts-divided-bitcoin-bottom\/","title":{"rendered":"Prominent Analysts Divided Over Bitcoin Bottom: Let&#8217;s Look At The Two Sides"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve heard the popular adage: &#8220;great minds think alike.&#8221; While this seems true in scientific contexts, in the case of finance, even cryptocurrencies, this is far from the case. Some of the greatest minds in Bitcoin (BTC) analysis recently convened in a Skype room to discuss if the bottom is truly in.<\/p>\n<p>Over eight attended the six-hour call, which was<a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=LrGx0lhdNBY\" rel=\"nofollow\"> live-streamed<\/a> to Tone Vays&#8217; Youtube channel, and there were two clear narratives: on-chain fundamentals show that Bitcoin found a bottom at $3,150, and historical technicals show that <a href=\"https:\/\/uniquehot.com\/2019\/04\/22\/bitcoin-btc-price-near-crucial-juncture\/\">BTC<\/a> will establish lower lows in this cycle. Let&#8217;s take a closer look at their theories.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Is the bottom in, final figures&#8230;  <\/p>\n<p>% probability Bitcoin has bottomed:<\/p>\n<p>BULLS<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/MustStopMurad?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" rel=\"nofollow\">@MustStopMurad<\/a> 75%  <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/Kenoshaking?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" rel=\"nofollow\">@kenoshaking<\/a> 80%<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/woonomic?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" rel=\"nofollow\">@woonomic<\/a> 95%<\/p>\n<p>BEARS<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/ToneVays?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" rel=\"nofollow\">@ToneVays<\/a> 40%<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/venzen?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" rel=\"nofollow\">@venzen<\/a> 39%<a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/LucidInvestment?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" rel=\"nofollow\">@LucidInvestment<\/a> 20%<a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/k77hCnGAuR\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/t.co\/k77hCnGAuR<\/a> <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/97O1eeixq7\" rel=\"nofollow\">https:\/\/t.co\/97O1eeixq7<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Willy Woo (@woonomic) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/woonomic\/status\/14881795?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" rel=\"nofollow\">April 20, 2019<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<h2>The Fundamental Bitcoin Bulls<\/h2>\n<p>First, the bulls, who primarily based their conjecture off data from the Bitcoin Blockchain, rather than technicals on a chart. This side consisted of Adaptive Capital&#8217;s Murad Mahmudov (75% sure bottom is in) and David Puell (80%), independent researcher Willy Woo (95%), and Tuur Demeester (80%), who recently a report claiming that BTC is looking amazing fundamentally.<\/p>\n<h6 style=\"text-align: center\">Related Reading: <a href=\"https:\/\/uniquehot.com\/2019\/04\/19\/whales-are-scooping-up-bitcoin-as-crypto-seemingly-bottoms-report-shows\/\">Whales Are Scooping Up Bitcoin As Crypto Seemingly Bottoms, Report Shows<\/a><\/h6>\n<p>As <a href=\"https:\/\/uniquehot.com\/2019\/04\/10\/experiments-bitcoin-price-bottoms\/\">explained<\/a> in a recent tweetstorm, blockchain models, which included fees, Network Value to Transactions (NVT), among other factors, are leaning bullish across the board.<\/p>\n<p>Balanced Price from Adaptive Capital\u2019s Puell, for instance, resembled the signal\u2019s action as the 2015 \u2013 2016 bear market came to a close. NVT Signal&#8217;s recent action <a href=\"https:\/\/uniquehot.com\/2019\/04\/05\/crypto-technicians-bullish-bitcoin-chain-data-bearish-story\/\">resembles<\/a> that seen in early-2015, which came after BTC established a long-term floor.<\/p>\n<p>Woo\u2019s very own Cumulative Value Days Destroyed indicator, which has historically caught bottoms to near a tee, showed that Bitcoin recently broke out of an upper accumulation band following a strong, convincing bounce off the lower band. And three key iterations of NVT have begun to converge, looking much like they did at 2015\u2019s bottom.<\/p>\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">New updates to the Woobull pricing model chart. <a href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/0g193OXVpe\" rel=\"nofollow\">pic.twitter.com\/0g193OXVpe<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&mdash; Willy Woo (@woonomic) <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/woonomic\/status\/52139776?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\" rel=\"nofollow\">April 9, 2019<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><\/p>\n<p>Demeester&#8217;s assertions were slightly different. He did acknowledge the importance of the aforementioned factors, but instead looked to the fact that the Bitcoin Unrealized Profit\/Loss (BUPL) indicator has entered a stage of &#8220;hope,&#8221; whales are accumulating, and market volatility is low to come to the conclusion that BTC is likely ready to soon enter a bullish state.<\/p>\n<h2>The Technical Bitcoin Bears<\/h2>\n<p>Second, but equally as important, the bears. This subset of traders claimed that per longer-term technical trends, price action seen in historical bubbles, Tyler Jenks\/Lucid Investments&#8217; Hyperwave Theory, and some industry developments, BTC could easily fall further than $3,000. This side consisted of former institutional investor Tone Vays (40% sure bottom is in), Venzen Khaosan (39%), Tyler Jenks (20%), and Leah Wald.<\/p>\n<p>The group&#8217;s primary point was that if Jenks&#8217; proprietary <a href=\"https:\/\/uniquehot.com\/2019\/03\/03\/bitcoin-collapse-800-late-2018s-plunge-mirrored-crypto-analyst\/\">Hyperwave<\/a> form of analysis continues to play out, Bitcoin&#8217;s drawdown to $3,150 was only part of the leg down, not it in its entirety.<\/p>\n<p>For those who missed the memo, a Hyperwave is a parabolic trend and a massive drawdown pattern that asset classes\/markets with the potential to catalyze large macroeconomic shifts tend to experience at one point or another. Jenks has applied Hyperwave to the Dotcom boom and bust, the growth of Japan&#8217;s economy in the 70s and 80s, and, of course, cryptocurrencies.<\/p>\n<div class=\"jeg_video_container jeg_video_content\"><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p>If Bitcoin finishes its ongoing Hyperwave, which predicted the rally to $20,000 and subsequent drawdown, BTC could fall to as low as the $1,000s. In fact, Lead Wald, a subscriber\/student of Jenks&#8217; theories, and Jenks himself <a href=\"https:\/\/uniquehot.com\/2019\/03\/05\/betting-on-bitcoin-price-analysts-wager-1-btc-on-a-dump-to-1500-before-6500\/\">recently bet<\/a> analyst Filb Filb that Bitcoin will hit $1,500 before $6,500.<\/p>\n<p>Venzen agreed but used his own analysis to back his claim that a move to $1,500 isn&#8217;t off the table. He claimed that industry fundamentals, like Bakkt or Fidelity running to set up a crypto shop, won&#8217;t drive prices, adding that what he calls a &#8220;Pi Cycle&#8221; predicts BTC will capitulate to $1,000 to $1,500 before rallying into the 2020 halving.<\/p>\n<p>Only time will tell which faction will be right in their analysis.<\/p>\n<pre>Featured Image from Shutterstock<\/pre>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve heard the popular adage: &#8220;great minds think alike.&#8221; While this seems true in scientific contexts, in the case of finance, even cryptocurrencies, this is far from the case. Some of the greatest minds in Bitcoin (BTC) analysis recently convened in a Skype room to discuss if the bottom is truly in. Over eight attended the six-hour call, which was live-streamed to Tone Vays&#8217; Youtube channel, and there were two clear narratives: on-chain fundamentals show that Bitcoin found a bottom at $3,150, and historical technicals show that BTC will establish lower lows in this cycle. Let&#8217;s take a closer look at their theories. Is the bottom in, final figures&#8230; % probability Bitcoin has bottomed: BULLS@MustStopMurad 75% @kenoshaking 80%@woonomic 95% BEARS@ToneVays 40%@venzen 39%@LucidInvestment 20%https:\/\/t.co\/k77hCnGAuR https:\/\/t.co\/97O1eeixq7 &mdash; Willy Woo (@woonomic) April 20, 2019 The Fundamental Bitcoin Bulls First, the bulls, who primarily based their conjecture off data from the Bitcoin Blockchain, rather than technicals on a chart. This side consisted of Adaptive Capital&#8217;s Murad Mahmudov (75% sure bottom is in) and David Puell (80%), independent researcher Willy Woo (95%), and Tuur Demeester (80%), who recently a report claiming that BTC is looking amazing fundamentally. Related Reading: Whales Are Scooping Up Bitcoin As Crypto Seemingly Bottoms, Report Shows As explained in a recent tweetstorm, blockchain models, which included fees, Network Value to Transactions (NVT), among other factors, are leaning bullish across the board. Balanced Price from Adaptive Capital\u2019s Puell, for instance, resembled the signal\u2019s action as the 2015 \u2013 2016 bear market came to a close. NVT Signal&#8217;s recent action resembles that seen in early-2015, which came after BTC established a long-term floor. Woo\u2019s very own Cumulative Value Days Destroyed indicator, which has historically caught bottoms to near a tee, showed that Bitcoin recently broke out of an upper accumulation band following a strong, convincing bounce off the lower band. And three key iterations of NVT have begun to converge, looking much like they did at 2015\u2019s bottom. New updates to the Woobull pricing model chart. pic.twitter.com\/0g193OXVpe &mdash; Willy Woo (@woonomic) April 9, 2019 Demeester&#8217;s assertions were slightly different. He did acknowledge the importance of the aforementioned factors, but instead looked to the fact that the Bitcoin Unrealized Profit\/Loss (BUPL) indicator has entered a stage of &#8220;hope,&#8221; whales are accumulating, and market volatility is low to come to the conclusion that BTC is likely ready to soon enter a bullish state. The Technical Bitcoin Bears Second, but equally as important, the bears. This subset of traders claimed that per longer-term technical trends, price action seen in historical bubbles, Tyler Jenks\/Lucid Investments&#8217; Hyperwave Theory, and some industry developments, BTC could easily fall further than $3,000. This side consisted of former institutional investor Tone Vays (40% sure bottom is in), Venzen Khaosan (39%), Tyler Jenks (20%), and Leah Wald. The group&#8217;s primary point was that if Jenks&#8217; proprietary Hyperwave form of analysis continues to play out, Bitcoin&#8217;s drawdown to $3,150 was only part of the leg down, not it in its entirety. For those who missed the memo, a Hyperwave is a parabolic trend and a massive drawdown pattern that asset classes\/markets with the potential to catalyze large macroeconomic shifts tend to experience at one point or another. Jenks has applied Hyperwave to the Dotcom boom and bust, the growth of Japan&#8217;s economy in the 70s and 80s, and, of course, cryptocurrencies. If Bitcoin finishes its ongoing Hyperwave, which predicted the rally to $20,000 and subsequent drawdown, BTC could fall to as low as the $1,000s. In fact, Lead Wald, a subscriber\/student of Jenks&#8217; theories, and Jenks himself recently bet analyst Filb Filb that Bitcoin will hit $1,500 before $6,500. Venzen agreed but used his own analysis to back his claim that a move to $1,500 isn&#8217;t off the table. He claimed that industry fundamentals, like Bakkt or Fidelity running to set up a crypto shop, won&#8217;t drive prices, adding that what he calls a &#8220;Pi Cycle&#8221; predicts BTC will capitulate to $1,000 to $1,500 before rallying into the 2020 halving. Only time will tell which faction will be right in their analysis. 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